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Alex Jones promotes hoaxes after Las Vegas massacre (9 posts)

  1. mark
    Member
  2. truthmod
    Administrator

    The media is up in arms about all the conspiracy theories and fake news surrounding this. Shouldn't they be used to this by now? I'm not going to sign on to the official story just yet. Alex Jones can say whatever he wants, but I'm going to use other sources.

    These second shooter videos with that "smoking gun" muzzle flash on the 4th floor seem to be debunked below.

    Was There A Second Shooter In Vegas?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/was-there...

    Interesting how fast Snopes and others are responding to the theories:

    No, There Was Not More Than One Gunman in the Las Vegas Shooting
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/politics/fac...

    Did a Second Gunman Shoot From the Fourth Floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel?
    http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-f...

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  3. truthmod
    Administrator

    U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CONTRACTOR SHARES NAME WITH COMPANY THAT BOUGHT PADDOCK’S PLANE IN 2013

    http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=51749

    Are Volant LLC and Volant Associates, both in the CIA’s backyard, completely different organizations, as some are sure to say? Maybe. But I think they’re close enough for government work, especially CIA cut out work, and easily appropriate for the Coincidence category.

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  4. mark
    Member

    It wouldn't surprise me if Mr. Paddock had help, or did not.

    The real story is not potential false flag, but why there is an epidemic of unhinged men (anyone know of a woman who has done this?) who are so alienated that they commit random murders. The psychological breakdown of the country is the real issue, one ignored by the Alex Jonestown type hoaxers and the mainstream media.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  5. truthmod
    Administrator

    Police don't know why Las Vegas gunman fired -- or why he stopped

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/us/las-vegas-shootin...

    (CNN)Police on Monday said that the Las Vegas gunman shot a hotel security guard six minutes before he began shooting concertgoers from his hotel room at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino -- a striking change from an earlier police timeline detailing what happened.

    Given that revised order of events, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said investigators do not yet know what made Stephen Paddock stop shooting, and they remain perplexed as to why he meticulously planned the shooting in the first place.

    Here's what we learned about the investigation and the questions that remain unanswered in the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  6. truthmod
    Administrator

    I watched most of this. I don't think the guy links to the audio files or shows the specific waveforms. We're supposed to take his word for it. That said, it is entirely possible that he's right.

    Forensic acoustic proof of SECOND shooter in the Las Vegas massacre

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxmEFeKy8aI

    In essence, because of the differences in the speed of sound vs. the speed of the bullets from a known cartridge (.223 Remington, in this case), the time lag between the last bullet hitting the pavement and the last audible report of the rifle muzzle can be used to very accurately calculate the range of the shooter.

    More importantly, when the audio from the Las Vegas shooting is analyzed, it reveals TWO shooters operating at the same time, not just one shooter. Shooter #1 is operating at 425 – 475 yards, which is consistent with the Mandalay Bay hotel, but shooter #2 is operating at approximately 250 – 270 yards.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  7. mark
    Member

    There is abundant, real evidence of multiple shooters in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963 -- and what change in the political system came from that documentation?

    It is a reason that JFK's foreign policy (the motive for his removal from office) is far more important than microanalysis of the ballistics.

    Some guy on Youtube throwing a bunch of numbers without evidence that is usable is not at that level of proof ...

    And for what purpose? That this nut had an accomplice? Even if true, then what? There have been so many crazy guys who've committed mass murder than one more example doesn't change much ... unless one is ultra right wing (like Alex Jonestown) and pretending that the government is doing this to impose gun control. That is as ridiculous as claiming planes did not hit the World Trade Center.


    "The tyranny of power is here. Current events tell us that those who killed Kennedy can only perpetuate their power by promoting social upheaval both at home and abroad. And that will lead not to revolution but to repression. I suggest to you, my friend, that the interests of those who killed Kennedy now transcend national boundaries and national priorities. No doubt we are dealing now with an international conspiracy. We must face that fact - and not waste any more time microanalyzing the evidence. That's exactly what they want us to do. They have kept us busy for so long. And I will bet, buddy, that is what will happen to you. They'll keep you very, very busy and, eventually, they'll wear you down. The truth was easily ascertainable. I feel that my work on the assassination is an accomplishment which required little intelligence, minimal analytic ability, and no special talents. Rather, it reflected a willingness to bear witness to the truth irrespective of the consequences. In my responsibility to adhering to the truth as I saw it, I have been and will continue to be, oblivious to all the consequences of its expression."

    -- Vincent Salandria, a veteran of the "JFK Truth Movement"

    Posted 1 week ago #
  8. BrianG
    Member

    Barrett's radio program hosted Tom Mysiewicz to discuss Las Vegas.

    Barrett can't even get the title of Mr. Mysiewicz's article right. Barrett calls it "The Las Vegas Gambit". It appears that the true title is "The Las Vegas Paddock".

    The last half of the article is mostly an attack on Israel and an effort to link Israel to the Las Vegas attacks.

    It's "Da Joos" who try to convince us that the world is not flat, you know.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  9. truthmod
    Administrator

    Is the Mandalay Bay Security Guard 'Missing'?

    Police told us that despite widespread rumors and speculation, Jesus Campos is not missing.

    Snopes: False

    http://www.snopes.com/is-the-mandalay-bay-security...

    Jesus Campos, Vegas security guard shot before rampage, appears to have vanished
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-jesus-campos-v...

    The story seemed straightforward: The unarmed security guard approached Stephen Paddock’s room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, distracting the gunman and potentially saving lives.

    With a gunshot wound to his leg, he helped point officers to the gunman’s location and stayed behind to evacuate hotel guests.

    He was hailed a hero by many, even as the story changed. Twice.

    Now, the man that many want to honor and who can help bring clarity about the timeline of the shooting has vanished from the public eye, less than two weeks since the Oct. 1 massacre, which left 58 people dead and more than 500 others injured.

    Posted 6 days ago #

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